“It Needs to Become Smarter”: HIT Leaders Share Their Vision for Interoperability

Stanley Huff, MD, CMIO, Intermountain Healthcare

It is possible for an event to propel an industry forward, helping it achieve adoption rates thought to be impossible, while also showing just how far behind it is? Yes, when the event is the Covid-19 pandemic, and the industry is healthcare IT.

Like many organizations, Intermountain Healthcare saw virtual visits skyrocket during the early weeks of Covid, obliterating fears many had about telemedicine’s potential. It wasn’t all good news, however. Intermountain also saw some serious flaws it its public health reporting system. According to Stan Huff, MD, who has held the CMIO role for more than 30 years, there were at one point 13 different reporting destinations.

“It’s so disappointing,” he said during a recent panel discussion, which also included Dave Cassel, Executive Director at Carequality, and Greg Fulton, Policy Lead with Philips’ Chief Medical Office. Not only must the data go to different places, but the formats also vary, whether it’s spreadsheets, emails, or other methods. It creates a sizeable challenge, one that he hopes doesn’t get swept under the rug after the pandemic has passed.

“We’re not interoperable in any sense,” said Huff. “We really need to invest in it and be thoughtful about it, but I worry we’re going to have a short memory.”

One thing that could certainly help prevent that is the passing of Final Rule, designed to drive interoperability and patient access to health information by “liberating the data,” according to CMS. Included in it are policies providing guidance around Public Reporting and Information Blocking, ADT Event Notifications, and Patient Access API.

Although his team is still working through the regulations, Huff is “excited” about the requirement to open up health records and “allow patients and providers true access to the information they need.” Because Intermountain owns a health plan – SelectHealth – the team has already dug into the rule, but questions remain around how it will directly affect providers and patients, particularly if applications being used are connected to FHIR.

“The technical part of the patching is one thing; the policy and process work is another,” he noted. “How do we know someone wants to connect? How do we give them permission to connect? How do we track it and make sure it doesn’t cause performance issues?”

The responsibility factor

Dave Cassel, Executive Director, Carequality

It brings up some interesting points around how far the responsibility of healthcare organizations extends when it comes to privacy, according to Cassel. After all, the majority of patients probably don’t realize that once the data leaves the health system, it’s no longer covered under HIPAA. And so, he believes it’s worthwhile to reach out to patients and make sure they’re asking the right questions — such as, does the app have a privacy protocol? Can it authenticate that it does? “There are things you can do ensure you’re both comfortable with where the data is doing,” he noted.

By educating users, healthcare organizations can build trust, which in turn can improve retention, as well as quelling misunderstandings about hospitals being “hoarders” who don’t want to release patient information, said Fulton. “This is a way to help them understand the process and get them comfortable with what they can do.”

It also addresses data blocking, one of the hot-button issues covered under the new regulations, according to Cassel. He believes the determining factor lie in who is making accusations against who, whether it’s application developers going after providers, payers going after providers, or vendors entering into a war of attrition with each other. “As we look at what I see as a gradual restructuring of healthcare to work in a new IT context, who wins that war is going to have an impact on what the emerging system looks like,” he said.

“A true, open market”

On a more positive note, the regulations could potentially pave the way for semantic interoperability, creating a “third-party market place where applications can be created, distributed, and used anywhere,” provided the appropriate standards are in place, said Huff. It provides a way for individuals across different organizations to collaborate, regardless of what EHR system they use, and pool resources to solve complex issues (like, for example, determining the best occult sepsis detection in the ED.

“In my visionary future, we’re sharing knowledge as executable programs, rather than sharing knowledge by publishing them in a journal that a physician then has to read, and know how to apply,” he noted. “It’s ready to use; you just have to install and integrate.”

What will prove critical going forward, he believes, is ensuring a solid infrastructure remains in place, particularly as more tools make their way to the patient’s home. “It needs to become smarter over time so that it’s not just a collection of data, but smart apps that are looking at the data and watching for the right opportunity to intervene or guide the patient,” said Huff.

For this to become a reality, reimbursement for patient monitoring needs to be mandated, noted Fulton, who envisions a future in which providers can not only view the longitudinal record during a telehealth visit, but also access real-time data that can be acted upon. “That’s where things need to go,” he said. “The rules need to empower patients.”

Cassel believes they’ll be able to do that, but it’s going to take time — and patience. “What we’re seeing is akin to the development of the Internet in the 90s, which led to an explosion of new functionality in the following decade that still continues,” he said. And finally, it’s going to require a continued focus on getting EHR systems to speak to each other. “The more we can make that seamless and remove those barriers, the more we free everyone up to get creative about how they continue to explore these models.”

To view the archive of this webinar — The CIO’s Interoperability Agenda: Creating an Ecosystem of Frictionless Care (Sponsored by Philips) — please click here.


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